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Kiah Albritton (she/her)
11:59
Welcome everyone! Let us know your name and where you’re joining in from!
Kiah Albritton (she/her)
12:03
Ed Trust website: https://edtrust.org/
Kiah Albritton (she/her)
12:10
Ed Trust TN site - https://edtrust.org/tennessee/
Kiah Albritton (she/her)
12:26
Tennessee Alliance for Equity in Education - https://thealliancetn.org/ Alliance member organization: https://thealliancetn.org/our-partners/
Kiah Albritton (she/her)
13:42
Check out recordings from previous sessions: https://edtrust.org/dollarsandsense/
Kiah Albritton (she/her)
14:30
Read more about our speakers: https://edtrust.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Session-5-Speakers-DS.pdf
Gini Pupo-Walker
15:44
Welcome everyone! Let us know your name and where you’re joining in from!
Laura Hunt
16:03
Hi! I’m Laura Hunt, State Manager of Advocacy and with TennesseeCAN based out of Nashville
Jessica Nadzam
16:10
Jessica from Arkansas!
Lee Harrell
16:16
Lee Harrell, TQEE. Clarksville, TN
Neil Kirschling
16:17
Hi all - Neil Kirschling from Rodel in Delaware. Looking forward to talking with you all after Zahava.
Haley Mathews
16:19
Haley Mathews, ALLMemphis in Memphis, TN
Teo Valdés
16:24
Teo Valdés in Chattanooga
Susanne Jackson
16:32
Susanne Jackson from Memphis - Stand for Children
Teo Valdés
16:38
Teo Valdés in Chattanooga
Erika Berry
16:47
Erika Berry from TennesseeCAN
Emily Astor
16:54
Emily Astor, Blount County Schools
Teo Valdés
16:58
(I’m a volunteer and member of UnifiEd.)
Gini Pupo-Walker
17:36
Be sure to click on "all panelists and attendees" when you introduce yourself!
Laura Hunt
18:00
Hi! I’m Laura Hunt, State Manager of Advocacy and with TennesseeCAN based out of Nashville
Haley Mathews
18:04
Haley Mathews, ALLMemphis in Memphis, TN
Lee Harrell
18:10
Lee Harrell, TQEE. Clarksville, TN
Sonja Dorsey
18:25
Sonja Dorsey, Georgia
Dana Brimm
19:07
Dana Brimm, TN Comptroller of the Treasury, Nashville
Liza Ramage
19:58
Liza Ramage, Chr., Education Task Force, NOAH
Gini Pupo-Walker
20:40
Be sure to put questions in the Q & A section and comments in the Chat. Thanks!
Vanessa Lazon
26:45
Vanessa Lazón MNPS Office of English Learners
Gini Pupo-Walker
32:11
FundEd: http://funded.edbuild.org/
Zahava Stadler
36:56
https://edbuild.org/content/edbuilder
Gini Pupo-Walker
41:37
I'm glad you are here! Don't you think this might be useful to our advocacy coalition?
Zahava Stadler
42:18
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jOrZbc8l-K7BiZ2N7RLI76O_7uSSV5DyX_F9EGefQjg/edit?usp=sharing
Teo Valdés
44:06
200 to 1 for translators! Wow, I didn’t know that. That explains some things.
Liza Ramage
46:38
Fascinating. I don’t understand the TN formula for ELL students…
Zahava Stadler
47:12
https://edbuild.org/content/edbuilder#MDB4eHh4eHh4eHg%3D
Gini Pupo-Walker
49:05
I went straight for the moonshot!
Gini Pupo-Walker
49:11
Such a diffference
Valeri Otey-Nellis
51:36
Sorry, I joined late. please send me the documents you're referring to.
Zahava Stadler
51:44
https://edbuild.org/content/edbuilder#MDB4eHh4eHh4eHg%3D
Zahava Stadler
52:18
Compare the recommendations here for English learners and economically disadvantaged students to the actual descriptions of current policy here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jOrZbc8l-K7BiZ2N7RLI76O_7uSSV5DyX_F9EGefQjg/edit?usp=sharing
Benjamin Friedlander
53:41
So does the tool ever recommend funding according to staff:student ratios, or is that whole system considered in need of improvement?
Zahava Stadler
54:30
The report never recommends staff units at the basis of a funding system! The “formula type and structure” section is one of the Formula Fundamentals, and the report recommends proceeding from a Weighted Student Funding structure
Zahava Stadler
54:42
Check out the Full Recommendations report for a description of why!
Benjamin Friedlander
54:53
Very interesting, thank you!
Teo Valdés
01:00:16
This is a great tool for exploring funding. Thanks! I’ll be sure to share with others.
Laura Hunt
01:00:18
How realistic do you think the moonshot options are for our state?
Gini Pupo-Walker
01:02:13
https://edtrust.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Session-5-Speakers-DS.pdf
Zahava Stadler
01:04:33
So glad you found it useful!
Teo Valdés
01:10:02
Does the amount double if a student is ELL and from a family that qualifies as low income?
Benjamin Friedlander
01:10:07
Always curious about this, do Cost-of-Living difference translate in terms of ed funding? I see Delaware spends about twice per-pupil what TN does, but I imagine costs are different too?
Zahava Stadler
01:11:32
This resource is a couple of years old but might be helpful http://viz.edbuild.org/maps/2016/cola/slopegraph/index.html
Laura Hunt
01:11:32
Tax dollars is probably a simple answer!
Zahava Stadler
01:13:08
On tax dollars: https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/data-visualizations/2021/how-states-raise-their-tax-dollars-fy2020#:~:text=Taxes%20make%20up%20about%20half,goods%20and%20services%20(32.2%25).&text=General%20sales%20taxes%20are%20the,45%20states%20that%20collect%20them.
Gini Pupo-Walker
01:13:34
Similar!
Liza Ramage
01:13:41
This looks pretty much exactly the same as Tn.
Gini Pupo-Walker
01:13:47
Not sure if the counselor stat is the same
Laura Hunt
01:13:50
Surprised about the school counselor one
Susanne Jackson
01:14:46
How many police do you have in schools compared to counselors?
Liza Ramage
01:15:57
Probably true about counselors. All schools have few counselors here in TN.
Laura Hunt
01:16:27
Yes it would be nice if we had a counselor allocation but we don’t yet :(
Laura Hunt
01:17:30
Well, I should clarify, we do but the ratio is really high
Zahava Stadler
01:17:34
I believe TN does have a modest counselor allocation in the current formula. Every 500 students in grades K-6 generate funding for counselor position; same for every 350 students in grades 7-12
Laura Hunt
01:18:25
Yes a bill was proposed this year to reduce the ratio but it failed because of $$$
Teo Valdés
01:18:26
That sounds about right. I know some elementary schools in Chattanooga share a counselor, only having one part-time in their school.
Susanne Jackson
01:18:34
Issue is not just the allocation in funding for counselors but how the districts actually use the funds and what tasks they have them do
Zahava Stadler
01:20:21
The formula also includes social worker positions—at a ratio of just 1 per 2000 students!
Emily Astor
01:20:50
What role, if any, did teacher unions (or associations if unions are not allowed in DE) play in finance reform advocacy?
Zahava Stadler
01:24:52
Great example of how a lawsuit doesn’t have to culminate in a big ruling in order to drive change
Gini Pupo-Walker
01:25:15
very true
Gini Pupo-Walker
01:25:38
Our next Dollars and Sense will dig into our lawsuit and where it is today.
Teo Valdés
01:29:04
Gini, by “our” do you mean a funding lawsuit in NT?
Teo Valdés
01:29:08
Sorry, TN.
Gini Pupo-Walker
01:29:19
Yes
Gini Pupo-Walker
01:29:31
the current lawsuit scheduled to go to trial later this year.
Teo Valdés
01:29:46
Got it. Thanks!
Gini Pupo-Walker
01:33:06
Please complete our survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/TSFLS_05
Gini Pupo-Walker
01:33:20
We want to know how we can improve and what's going well. Thank you!
Susanne Jackson
01:35:13
Thanks so much for dialogue and tools!
Neil Kirschling
01:38:43
nkirschling@rodelde.org
Neil Kirschling
01:38:49
Feel free to follow up. Thanks!